Category: Dating and Relationships
oh kay here goes, this topic crossed my mind because of a show I used to watch called nip tuck. Its a seen I want go in to much detail where a man and a woman are going at it. Later the man who's name I think is matthew later finds out she wasa he earlier in life. So what would you do in this situation!.
Hmmm, interesting. never been in that situation, but a blind friend of mine went out with what he thought was a girl. They went to a motel and he fucked her ass. She told him that she was saving her pussy for marriage, so he didn't do much questioning. now to me, my friend must not have been all that great of a lover. He obviosly didn't explore this person's body or anything. I mean, how could you have sex with someone and not know what gendor they are? He said the guy had a very womanly voice and had a smaller build and smooth skin, so he just assumed it was a woman. I'm still amazed at this story.
uh wow/ how could that happen? god he must have not touched that person at all. I mean. you can't hide that sort of thing. lol. like in that movie boys don't cry. crazy.
You know it happens to lots of men sighted or not. I have a friend that doesn't notice things like scars on a girls rist. I met a girl he was dating and ask about them and he didn't even know she had them. She later told him she'd slit them. He really doesn't notice much even after he's dated for a time. Now on the topic I am assuming this person had already been changed completely, or as completely as these things can be. Their is nothing for it but to leave. Lol. chaulk it up to an experience and for get it. hahaha. I have touched men that have been surgically changed, and if you check you really can tell the differents. Hasn't happened to me, and probably never will, I hope. Smile.
I can not honestly say what I would do. It depended on the situation I think.
wo Anthony that's some crazy shit. I mean, if I was a blind guy, I'd at least touch the bitch all over to make sure the pussy's there. Not very observant guy I guess.
Personally I'd be a little freaked out, especially if I didn't find out till after sex. If this guy was a girl before, I'd be pissed off if he didn't just say something out right instead of waiting till I fucked him.
Jessie
Wow...yeah, I'd definitely, if I were a guy, check that first, and am a little shocked he himself didn't.
But yeah, I've met a few transvestites, and it was easy for me to tell. The voice isn't fully one gender; there's a masculine femininitty to it.
transvestites, and trans gender are totally different. Trans genders are medically changed, or going through that change and believe themselves to be the sex they have chosen, so they, if a women think themselves a woman, so see no wrong seducing a man. Smile. I mean you could be as freaked as you want, but murder carries a prison term, so you have to just deal, have a large whiskey, and forget it happened. Lol
I clicked n this against my better udgement.
Ultimately what it comes down to is honesty but also acceptance, or lack thereof.
When embarking on a physical encounter with someone I think that it's only fair that partners should be honest with each other, regardless of whether that encounter is a one night stand or has potential to lead to a more long-term relationship.
However, transgender men and women often find it difficult to gain acceptance even in terms of their friends and family, so even more so when it comes to forming relationships, which is perhaps why often they fail to tell a potential new partner that they've undergone gender reassignment surgery.
One imagines that perhaps the thinking behind that decision is that if the person they are with gets to know them first, then the issue of transgender can more easily be overcome. On the flip side, the partner in question would possibly feel a sense of betrayal at finding out the person they thought was a woman actually used to be a man or vice versa.
I think it's never deliberate – and it's never as black and white as all that.
Ug... just wow.
And I don't mean to get all technical with this, but there are actually three classifications.. transvestite, transgendar, and transsexual. Transvestites are people who dress like the opposite sex just for fun or because they like it. Transgendar are people who act like the oopposite sex.. for example guys playing with girls things and doing womens housework and viceversa. And transsexuals are the ones who actually feel like they are trapped in the wrong body and go through with the whole physical sex change. Just thought I'd point that out..
Hmmm, makes me wonder where I fit in. I never have been one to fit in to a neat little box, label or category. I love the home, cooking and cleaning and the likes, but I've never dressed up in women's clothes and have absolutely no desire to do so. I'm comfortable enough being a man, but I do have a definite homemaker side which most would probably view as feminen. Just my random musings.
That's fine, but I think transgendars are more for wanting to actually live that lifestyle all the time but are still comfortable with their bodies and don't go through the whole sex change.. I believe that is what sets them apart.
lol Anthony, no worries darling, you're a normal ol gay guy. :)
I'm a normal ol straight woman, no desire to be a man or be with women. Still, I'm not a girlie girl either. I like the idea of being tough, depended on, etc, all the things guys are looked at as.
But I've got my long ass mane of hair and nice women's clothes (even though they're rugged cowgirl stuff) lol, and I'm happy with my body and my men.
Thanks for clearing up all this transsexual/transgender/transvestite. That's always how I saw it.
Jessie
I thought it was the other way around that the trans gender actually had the surgery and the trans sexual was the ones that played with the dolls and whatever. Anthony you'd be honest, so a person with you knows what they get from jump street, so no problem with that. How ever it works I would say maybe use the rule of thumb? If you want a real women check to see if your hot flame doesn't have an adams apple, and if you want a man then the hot flame should have one. I suppose also if a man needs to use a pump to get erect you might ask more questions about his pasd to make sure he's a man with a medical issue not a woman with a medical switch? Now if it is so that a trans gender is one that has not gone through the medical change, then if you are with one it is totally your fault for not exploring them and being a better lover. So you get what you get. Lol
To answer someones post above yes on the show I saw that person did go through the full change in to a woman. To the rest! hmm... this has turned into quite the educational topic and I learned something from it too :).
yes, a transsexual is a personal who actually had the surgery to change their sex. Transgender is just identifying as the opposite gender, but their still comfortable with their body. Almost like a double gender person in a sense. lol
Yeah, I know quite a bit about this stuff actually. I had a younger cousin who had the same problem. He was born a girl, at the age of like 3 or 4 he decided he was a boy, and since then we called him a boy. But he never got the big surgery, just got the breasts removed. People like to call him a dyke, but really he likes straight women and wants to be seen as a man. It's kinda complex, and I never understood it personally, but each to their own. All I'm sayin is I don't particularly wana have sex with one. lol
Jessie
wow, i didn't know the specific classifications...lol. thanks for clearin that up. :) :P
The Zone is an educational place. Hope I don't meet a man with breast, I'll have to post and well I should have known better from the Zone right? Lol
lol! I was reflecting on this topic and felt like posting it. Kay here lets push this out further, if any of you brave souls has had sex with a trans gender what was the exprerence like! was it better the same or wurse? Post on and educate us as well.
You really believe a red blooded womans man is gonna post he just didn't know? hahahaha. We are studs dude, and we are great lovers and we know what we are doing. Smile.
Yep. I figure that if someone did, they're not going to tell it, and most of the people that would even post to this sort of board have already posted to it. That being said, I would love to hear about such an experience. I just don't think it's going to happen.
Well. i've never had sex. with someone that wasn't a man. or a woman. but. i think i wouldn't care. i treet. them. and except them. as they are!...
You don't have that problem. A woman isn't gonna tell you she's a man. It just doesn't happen. Plus if you're having sex she's not gonna say she's "saving it for marage." You're safe. hahaha.
It'd be a little easier for a woman to pretend to be a man in bed with a blind chick. Like, you can buy a pretty realistic *feeling* dick if you wanted too. lmao
Yes, but you'd have to strap it on and well its just different. What happened to the sense of smell? Women don't smell like men an vise versa, but okay, okay, it happens.
I would feel somehow cheated if I had sex with a guy, to find out he went through a sex change and use to be a woman or if I did it with a girl and realized she had male organs.
I don't know if I would be as accepting of trans gender, trnas sexuals or anything like that. I guess thats based on the lack of exposure to such.
Well in this case tequila I guess trans genders have not have a sex change, so give all sex buddies a good sniff and feel before you say yes. Lol
That's what I say. I mean, really, who would have sex with someone without ever knowing whether they were a guy or girl? I don't see how that could happen, at least not for me. Even if you're blind, wouldn't you get to know their body first? Idk, maybe these people were simply very wasted. lol
Jessie
I'd think a blind person would be less subject to getting cought out on this. Sited men do all the time. A um,ah, girls says know you can't touch me their, because I am saving it for marriage, and you're desprit well. Smile.
That's what happened to my friend. The person sounded pretty girlish and had a smooth ass. He knew she wanted to stay a vergin until marage, so he said he didn't want to play with her and tempt her. I still can't believe he didn't do even a little bit of exploring, but oh well. He sure was embarrassed about it later, but at least he did admit what happened. A lot of guys wouldn't have. The guy hadn't undergone gendor reassignment sergery, but did cross dress and pretty much lived as a woman.
I would just feel up a little bit, even if the person wanted to stay a virgin. Feeling does no harm.
So I add a little more pondering to this topic, what if the person whent totally through the change from a man to a woman or the other way around. Would you still have sex with them? Just wanting to get people thinking!.
No. She has to be a natural woman. A medical changed one would still smell like a man, feel like a man, and well be a man in my book. Nope!
Ehh ... Idk. It depends, I usually don't have sex unless we're at least friends anyway, so if I really like them, and they tell me straight up without lying to me that they had a surgery so I didn't have to find out myself, maybe I would. It also heavily depends on whether or not I like their body or I'm physically attracted to them, Kuz if I wanted to have sex with someone that repulsed me I could go grab a natural man who's just as ugly just as easily. lol :P
Jessie
http://www.bilerico.com/2011/04/how_to_make_love_to_a_trans_person.php Relevant poem.